“Wait, Is it a romantic date?” Podcast Episode 107: Love is certainly not a lay | Autostraddle

Rub out those split up rips because we are going to show you that really love just isn’t a lie! Recently we Autostraddle publisher as well as around symbol
Heather Hogan
referring to her 11 year(!!) connection along with her girlfriend and all situations longterm interactions.

But initially! We celebrate getting reunited — after an eventful summer time! — and play a-game of guess the tv series from the fanfic.

SHOW RECORDS

+ If you’re an A+ member, you can read
this substantial crossover fanfic
your Autostraddle TV group together published,  such as the Buffy/Faith/Nia Nal threesome we concocted.

+ one of the primary parts I blogged for Autostraddle was
this article about period among

Fleabag.

+ Another reason is an A+ member: this
exclusive check Heather and Stacy’s wedding ceremony!

+ I like communication but
as Vanessa detailed here
you will find any such thing as an excessive amount of control.

+ if you like a further look into my attitude that simply because a relationship comes to an end doesn’t mean it wasn’t important,
consider the best essay
I actually written.

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Heather:

We stayed from the entire evening, which can be only thus regarding figure for both people. And I believe it was only, it is indicative of our relationship, i believe, in which it had been exactly like, this might be awesome. Let us just do the following point. This is so that fun. Let us simply do the second thing. And that I thinkis just already been precisely how all of our connection’s been for like 11 many years. Each step has just already been like, “This component’s great. What is the the next thing we could carry out?” therefore, yeah.

Theme song plays

Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.

Christina:

And That I’m Christina.

Drew:

And this is,

Wait, So Is This a Date?

Christina:


Hold off, So Is This a romantic date?

is an Autostraddle podcast centered on the burning up question: hold off, is this a night out together? In which Drew and I find all sorts of things about dating. What’s dating, what exactly isn’t dating. And extremely just have a grand adventure, I’d state.

Drew:

I would personally in addition say that it’s been a grand adventure up until now and certainly will continue being. My name is Drew Gregory. I’m an author for Autostraddle and a filmmaker and a trans lesbian. And I wish to have something new to add to the mix. We never can imagine such a thing new. I think those are my personal identities.

Christina:

Sometimes identification does not alter, despite exactly what TikTok will say to you.

Drew:

I’m Jewish.

Christina:

Yeah. I Am Talking About like—

Drew:

Sort of. I mean, yeah. No, I am not spiritual, but that is in addition element of my identity. You can inform from my locks.

Christina:

Who hasn’t changed however, I suppose.

Drew:

That I’m Jewish?

Christina:

Yeah. You’ve been Jewish.

Drew:

No, I’ve been Jewish. Yeah, that don’t happen between the two attacks. Really, who are you, Christina?

Christina:

I Am Christina. I’m also an author at Autostraddle. A loud homosexual on the net. I am truly looking towards the advent of Princess Diana season, AKA bike short pants and sweatshirts. That is where I’m attempting to be. I am in Philadelphia, making it 96 levels nowadays. So we’re slowly acquiring there. It’s simply like Needs it at this time. It really is my personal ideal time. I wish to end up being a primary figure within the fall, and it is not going on but.

Drew:

Yeah. Well, what’s interesting you are disclosing at the moment is, so for the listeners, it’s been weekly since the final episode, that is what it always is. But also for all of us, we really taped one six periods once we were discovering our vocals and building this brand new podcast. We taped that ahead of time, the good news is we’re rather existing. So this is like we have had an entire summer time. So we have not tape-recorded in months and we’ve been up to all kinds of things

Christina:

Uncharted area. The very last time we recorded, we hadn’t fulfilled. We have now satisfied face-to-face.

Drew:

That’s true! Yes!

Christina:

Drew was in my ding, dang home, just chilling out.

Drew:

Yes!

Christina:

I would personally just awaken and become want, “Well, have a look, which is Drew over there.”

Drew:

Very great.

Christina:

It actually was really wonderful.

Drew:

You may have these types of a pleasant residence.

Christina:

Thank-you. It really is a homosexual disorder home and then we think it’s great extremely dearly. Yeah. Therefore we’re just on an innovative new trip and it’s really truly exciting are going on this venture with this listeners. Do we have anything else we would like to pontificate when it comes to before we have into our little online game?

Drew:

What i’m saying is, I don’t know. I’d a big summer time, but I guess things comes right up due to the fact periods appear, but…

Christina:

Yeah, Really don’t want you to load everything in the front.

Drew:

You don’t want us to ruin such a thing?

Christina:

Yeah. Load almost everything right in front? My Jesus, just what a terrible sentence.

Drew:

It sounded a little bit intimate, but also I really had a lot more of a looked at love—

Christina:

It performed!

Drew:

I was thinking more though that you are currently leaving Home Depot and were like getting into your car or truck, that we learn there is no need, but that was in addition where my personal mind is actually, that also might be sexual.

Christina:

In addition only love that thing that is maintaining me personally from planning to Residence Depot is actually an automobile rather than the person who i will be. Like each time I’ve been at a Home Depot, someone has-been like, “Ma’am are you presently missing? Are you presently safe here?” And I also’m love, “No, frankly. Plenty lumber about. I am not secure.” Thus I have actually a game for Drew because we love to perform video games.

Drew:

I’m listening.

Christina:

And that I determined, throughout respect of myself and all of our guest, that this would definitely be slightly intro into the world of fanfic for Drew. So what You will find accomplished is actually I’ve used five programs from Drew’s preferred Characters in Television list, and I am attending study you some tags from AO3’s fanfiction and you’re going to need certainly to guess which of this shows these labels tend to be making reference to. I’ll begin basic, they will certainly increase certain with the show as we complement.

Drew:

Okay. I just have some concerns—

Christina:

Definitely you do.

Drew:

Because I’m not sure many towards fanfic world. Therefore every show has words that are associated with that demonstrate?

Christina:

Yes.

Drew:

That range in specificity, i’d picture?

Christina:

Yes. Yes, they are doing.

Drew:

So any time you wanted to discover a reveal that had like, I’m not sure, medieval occasions you could potentially strike the medieval label.


Christina:

We’ll point out that i did not discover any medieval occasions labels in virtually any among these shows. Like to see it.

Drew:

Well, that’s not my style, but I was simply putting something out.

Christina:

Yes.

Drew:

Because i assume inside my brain, I happened to be like, oh, well, if you should be checking out fanfic, you are searching for indicates that have characters you love. But that is not at all times the case. Occasionally you are just looking for an interest and then you can find out shows through the fanfic?

Christina:

You can. That will be a strange way to approach fanfic since most individuals address it knowing the ship they will have in mind. And then they state, I would like to read perhaps another market form of this fanfic. Probably i would really like some harm convenience. Maybe i’d like a slow burn. Perhaps i simply want some straight up smut. There’s lots of places which men and women go. Then addititionally there is merely added tags, letting you know the kind of flavor and vibe of the tale. And weare going to go taste and ambiance. Because demonstrably vessels will offer it out and an alternative world is certainly not especially beneficial per the tv series, therefore wewill end up being particular to the show.

Drew:

Okay, cool. Let’s leap engrossed.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

Let us discover together. Yeah.

Christina:

Okay. The first one. We will start off with fictional politics, praise kink, abandonment dilemmas, very slow burn.

Drew:

Compliments kink, political… Fictional politics?

Christina:

Imaginary politics, yes.

Drew:

Does which means that like politics which happen to be grounded into the real-world, however they are fictional or totally imaginary politics?

Christina:

I haven’t take a look at fic involved, but i am presuming this means totally fictional politics.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

We can keep working.

Drew:

Yeah, keep going.

Christina:

History punishment, harmed convenience, I need gentle what to live and thus will you. Entertaining label. Simply had to review any particular one.

Drew:

Okay, wait. Maybe i will take one minute and consider what my personal favorite shows tend to be. Okay. Because I’m trying to think of the demonstrates that have politics inside. Oh hold off, could it possibly be

The L Word?

Christina:

This one is not

The L Word.

No.

Drew:

For the reason that it does have artificial politics.

Christina:

It does.

Drew:

Because Bette operates for mayor. I am not sure in the event that you remember that.

Christina:

Oh, i really do.

Drew:

Okay, let us see. What other…

Vida

features politics.

Christina:


Vida

features politics.

Drew:

Is-it

Vida?

Christina:

Unfortuitously,

Vida

needs any fanfics.


Drew:

Oh, exactly what?

Christina:

I’m sure. So men and women, will it.

Drew:

People, can get on that. I might study that fanfic.

Christina:

Folks, arrive at it.

Drew:

Okay. Let us see. What other…

Christina:

I can continue.

Drew:

Keep working. Yeah.

Christina:

Cat and mouse. Possessive conduct.

Drew:

Oh, oh,

Killing Eve.

Christina:

There you go.

Drew:

Cat and mouse got me. Oh, praise kink. Yeah. Okay, it really is all pressing. It’s all clicking.

Christina:

Everything presses. Everything clicks. It absolutely was also a challenge because I experienced to get types that have been specific sufficient to the show, but also like, it may surprise one to know there’s lots of compliments kink things available to you.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

Like plenty. Just like a bunch.

Drew:

I really believe that. I adore our very own area.

Christina:

I know. One of these simple is certainly not on your a number of preferred TV shows and/or preferred television characters because several of your chosen television shows did not have fics, which had been unfortunate.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

But this will be a tv series we have discussed quite a bit and I believe you’ll get it.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Sooner or later. This really is going to be so simple available, personally i think.

Drew:

Oh, God. Stress.

Christina:

Male relationship. Mentally repressed.

Drew:


Appearing?

Christina:

No.

Drew:


Ted Lasso?

Christina:

Yep. Yep.

Drew:

Like, exactly what demonstrates perform I see with guys? Okay, why don’t we attempt the homosexual any. Nope. Let us attempt the directly one.

Christina:

Yeah, one other any would be “team bonding” and I ended up being like, that’s a straightforward one. Absolutely an easy one. All right. Why don’t we see. Canon character demise, LGBTQ character of tone. There is a tongue twister for you personally. Families of option. Mom daughter commitment.

Drew:


Feel 8?

Christina:

No. In the area, i might state. I might state because zone.

Drew:


Pose?

Christina:

Yeah. Another one would end up being canon gender work, very — fine, there is two even more.

Drew:

Okay. I favor it.

Christina:

Jealousy. I will be afraid of the then event because Really don’t trust the people. A literal tag about fic. Iconic.

Drew:

Okay. After all, I really don’t consider

Glee

is found on my personal listing, but that’s what I would very first think.

Christina:

It isn’t

Glee.

Really don’t imagine

Glee

was on any listings.

Drew:

It isn’t.

Christina:

But amusing point. Ex-lovers to pals returning to fans trope, family feels, friendship. A lengthy awaited reunion.

Drew:

Ex-lovers to friends right back. So is this

The L phrase?

Christina:

It is

The L phrase.

Drew:

Okay. I was like, ex-lovers to pals back again to ex… Yeah, the ex-lovers.

Christina:

The sad most important factor of

The L word

fanfic could be the incredible level of Bette Tina fanfic is just like, y’all requirement to…

Drew:

You realize, i believe we may have a reason to get involved with this later on. Which is some tease for our main subject.

Christina:

Okay. Angst.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Bittersweet ending.

Drew:


Freaks and Geeks?

Christina:

Close — no, perhaps not near. I do not must rest to you personally.

Drew:

I’m not sure the reason why. I recently got a jab at angst and bittersweet ending. Which is merely sort of my personal thing.

Christina:

Yeah. That’s true. Which is best shown. Romance (very unfortunate). Which is in parentheses, the actual unfortunate.

Drew:

And it’s really maybe not

The Leftovers.

Christina:

It isn’t really

The Leftovers.

I am not planning to offer this-

Drew:

Okay. I’m going to be able to get this. So anxiety.

Christina:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Drew:

Bittersweet closing.

Christina:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Romance parenthesis sad.

Drew:

Romance, really sad.

Christina:

Unresolved sexual stress.

Drew:

This is certainly all. This is just myself. This can be like every thing. This could you should be something.

Christina:

Yeah, this is fanfic, hottie.

Drew:

Ooh. After all, wow. What a welcome.

Christina:

Pining is yet another one.

Drew:

Exactly how is this in identical family members? Okay, wait, I want to remember suggests that I like which happen to be gay while having an angst. Pining.

Christina:

I’ll state this tv series isn’t homosexual.

Drew:

Oh.

Christina:

But it is a show that I’m sure you adore.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

Do you want one thatwill provide it with away?

lgbtagingadvocacy.org

Drew:

I Actually Do believe we have to jump on making use of podcast—

Christina:

I really do.

Drew:

However if it actually was merely you and i prefer going out as friends, I would personally end up like, no, no, no, offer myself a half hour. But okay, provide me personally usually the one.

Christina:

Blasphemy, spiritual traumatization.

Drew:


Fleabag.

Christina:

Here it’s.

Drew:

Truth be told there its.

Fleabag

is actually a show that given that certain insane culture around it’s eliminated away and it’s in contrast to these frustrating individuals personalities, I’m like, incredible program.

Christina:

Yeah.

Drew:

Only a good show.

Christina:

Yeah.

Drew:

Just what outstanding, great television program. Which was lots of fun. Many thanks.

Christina:

Anytime.

Drew:

And I also’d prefer to just generate a public service… No, that is not the goals. Just like a request to the people that I want some

Vida

fanfic. I shall see clearly. I am not sure which i’d like it to be between. Maybe it may be, what’s it called when it is like two… We did this. We performed this in TV group. We did like a cross… what is the phrase for this? What exactly is it when it is like several programs?

Christina:

Yeah. Cross… Cross… That thing. I’m sure what you’re stating. I can not consider the word. We could deliver our visitor in. I’m sure they know your message.

Drew:

Okay. We’re going to enter into all of our significant topic we are able to bring in our visitor so the woman mind doesn’t explode as she is trying to inform us this term. Guest, do you wish to introduce yourself?

Heather:

Yes. Hello, this will be Heather Hogan. I’m an Autostraddle writer and editor. And in most cases as I listen to this podcast, we play along adore it’s a game tv series whenever y’all are trying to do your games. It absolutely was very hard for me becoming peaceful while this was taking place.

Christina:

I became like, that is gonna be really enjoyable, but it’s additionally probably going to be so very hard for me for this and Heather you need to be silent.

Heather:

Yeah. My personal favorite up to now was, “Exactly who mentioned It: Drew or Sappho?”

Christina:

Thank you so much.

Heather:

And that I was undoubtedly cheering like I found myself on

The Purchase Price Is Right.

I was similar, “Christina, no it really is Drew! Its Drew! It Is Drew! No, it is Sappho!” However performed fantastic. You probably didn’t actually require my personal support at this online game.

Christina:

Re-listening compared to that one, I happened to be love, well, damn i know my friends slash I guess the text of Sappho.

Heather:

You probably did well.

Drew:

You smashed it. I additionally experienced… to be certain the game worked, I attempted it on a number of individuals. Some people that do know myself better than you do, Christina, in addition they all cannot take action. Thus I ended up being very amazed by you.

Christina:

Sounds like i am successful, basically all that issues.

Drew:

Heather, tell us exactly what that term is actually for the fanfiction.

Heather:

It’s simply crossover.

Christina:

It is a crossover, yeah!

Drew:

Crossover! Oh, okay. Okay. I thought there was clearly some elegant word because of it. But anyways, if someone else desires write

Vida

fanfic that is a crossover, it really is another thing that I favor. I would love to see a lot more of it. So the major subject this week is certainly not fanfic. Its long-term interactions. Because, Heather, just how long have you been within recent union?

Heather:

I have already been using my spouse for 11 decades.

Drew:

Oh, which is such a long time.

Christina:

Drew, have you accomplished something regularly for 11 years? Because We certainly haven’t.

Drew:

No, not even gender. We haven’t accomplished any such thing. What have I {done|completed|acco